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  NEED FOR PROFITS RELUCTANTLY FORCES WTS TO ABANDON LONG STANDING PRINCIPLE

  by still wondering in

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  the principle is that individuals in gods organization are unimportant.

  its not open to personalities as the mission statement in the watchtower states.... .

  but if its a toss up between financial profits and principles then clearly principles need to be jettisoned if profits are to be maximised..... .

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  NEED FOR PROFITS RELUCTANTLY FORCES WTS TO ABANDON LONG STANDING PRINCIPLE

  by still wondering in

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  the principle is that individuals in gods organization are unimportant.

  its not open to personalities as the mission statement in the watchtower states.... .

  but if its a toss up between financial profits and principles then clearly principles need to be jettisoned if profits are to be maximised..... .

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  Sorry about the formatting, it seems a hit or miss process or I just have not got the hang of it.

  If anyone can explain how it should be done then please do.

  I will try again.
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  NEED FOR PROFITS RELUCTANTLY FORCES WTS TO ABANDON LONG STANDING PRINCIPLE

  by still wondering in

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  the principle is that individuals in gods organization are unimportant.

  its not open to personalities as the mission statement in the watchtower states.... .

  but if its a toss up between financial profits and principles then clearly principles need to be jettisoned if profits are to be maximised..... .

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  The principle is that individuals in Gods organization are unimportant. It’s “not open to personalities” as the mission statement in the watchtower states...

  

  But if it’s a toss up between financial profits and principles then clearly principles need to be jettisoned if profits are to be maximised....

  

  “You will prize the authors edition.......... in the authors own hand”. Clearly no personalities here!!!!!!!!!!!!

  

  Even the PA system knew it had to behave with such an esteemed speaker at the mic.

  “All hung on his words in rapt attention”.

  With nineteen, yes nineteen separate occasions for applause. With such a venerated speaker someone thought it was necessary to count and record them. Rutherford received “a great ovation” twice even before He started speaking. The audience was applauding him both as he “ascended the platform” and when “the chairman presented him”. And he hadn’t even said a word yet.

  Once again, clearly no personalities here!!!!!!!!!!!!

  

  “We had on the grounds this morning ONLY 40,000 of the AUTOGRAPHED edition”

  Absolutely no personalities here!!!!!!!!!!!!

  

  Even the PA system knew it had to behave with such an esteemed speaker at the mic.

  “All hung on his words in rapt attention”.

  With nineteen, yes nineteen separate occasions for applause. With such a venerated speaker someone thought it was necessary to count and record them. Rutherford received “a great ovation” twice even before He started speaking. The audience was applauding him both as he “ascended the platform” and when “the chairman presented him”. And he hadn’t even said a word yet.

  Once again, clearly no personalities here!!!!!!!!!!!!

  

  “We had on the grounds this morning ONLY 40,000 of the AUTOGRAPHED edition”

  Absolutely no personalities here!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  DEATH THREATS TO CHILDREN OF JW’s IF PARENTS FAIL TO GET THEM TO SELL WATCHTOWER PUBLICATIONS

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  jw parents are put under enormous pressure if they want their kids to live.

  if parents dont want their children killed they had better get their kids to spend 6 hours a day selling the watchtowers children book or else.

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  DEATH THREATS TO CHILDREN OF JW’s IF PARENTS FAIL TO GET THEM TO SELL WATCHTOWER PUBLICATIONS

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  jw parents are put under enormous pressure if they want their kids to live.

  if parents dont want their children killed they had better get their kids to spend 6 hours a day selling the watchtowers children book or else.

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  If any other business threatened parents by saying (esp. in print) that if they wanted their kids to live they would have to get them to spend 6 hours a day selling their products they would be guilty of a criminal offense.

  But the WTS by virtue of its claiming to be a religion (except in Mexico where they claimed they were NOT a religion) are legally able to get away with such death threats as a legitimate way to force children to sell its wares.

  The following paragraph to this stated the children needed to do this “work in the remaining MONTHS before Armageddon”

  This was not some far off death threat but an immediate death threat, one that would be carried out in the next few months if their kids didn’t get out selling.

  Truly a loving malevolent evil totally immoral organization.
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  DEATH THREATS TO CHILDREN OF JW’s IF PARENTS FAIL TO GET THEM TO SELL WATCHTOWER PUBLICATIONS

  by still wondering in

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  jw parents are put under enormous pressure if they want their kids to live.

  if parents dont want their children killed they had better get their kids to spend 6 hours a day selling the watchtowers children book or else.

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  JW parents are put under enormous pressure if they want their kids to live. If parents don’t want their children killed they had better get their kids to spend 6 hours a day selling the Watchtowers’ “Children” book or else.

  
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  Please reccommend older Watchtower publciations for stumbling purposes

  by TheStumbler in

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  first time poster here but i've been lurking a while.. i have a question that i was hoping some of the watchtower historians might be able to answer.

  if a witness was willing to read some of the organisation's older publications, what books would you get them to read and how do i get these books?.

  my family are witnesses and my father is an elder.

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  if you want some old publications including some of those mentioned have a look at your pm.
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  Another blood ban victim (2 months old baby)

  by behemot in

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  baby dies after parents refuse blood transfusiondecember 13, 2010a 2-month-old baby born with heart defects died recently after her parents, members of jehovahs witness, refused to allow surgery because of their faith prohibiting blood transfusions, hospital officials said yesterday.

  the baby, identified by her surname lee, was born in august with a congenital heart disease.

  doctors at the seoul asan hospital, where she was first admitted, concluded that she needed surgery, but her parents refused to give permission, according to the officials.

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  "In former times thousands of youths died for putting God first. They are still doing it, only today the drama is played out in hospitals and courtrooms, with blood transfusions the issue."
  Awake! - May 22, 1994, p.2

  Yes, the sacrifice of human life, human sacrifices, to please God by as is stated “putting God first”.

  Why? Because we are told that’s what He requires and is pleased by such sacrifices, just like the Canaanite gods.

  Such are the consequences of worshipping, thence sacrificing to, the watchtower gods and their idols. Their primary idol, the bunch of desperadoes who call themselves the “governing body”, in an effort to subserviate its followers erects subsidiary idols to pay homage and sacrifices to such as blood.
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  KS Blood-Handout s-55-e (PDF)!!!

  by yknot in

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  2. beliefs

  we interrupt your forum posting for this 'just in' item...... it appears an elder has not locked his doctor's bag and a member of the conscious class has brazeningly swiped & scanned a copy of the s-55e.

  (((thank you anonymous cc jw!.

  for the purpose of our bethel audience i want to assure you no actual elder was willingly involved in the obtaining of this scan.. link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/mnf7a0.

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  For the bunch of psychopathic desperadoes, a collective “Mad Hatter”class, who rule in JWland known as “The spiritual paradise” they are indeed living in a veritable paradise. A paradise where they have the ability to empower themselves to perform miracles. The most notable being the miracle of always being right even when completely wrong. So it’s no surprise that they have also given themselves the powers of life and death.

  They thus have the powers needed to hand down death sentences or reprieves how ever the fancy takes them. It’s pointless having a power and not exercising it especially when it can be used to strengthen their power base and extend THEIR paradise.

  So these past decades the “ fateful and disgusting serpent Mad Hatter” class have used these powers to the hilt and by their own admission left thousands dead in their wake and tens of thousands more grieving.

  "In former times thousands of youths died for putting God first. They are still doing it, only today the drama is played out in hospitals and courtrooms, with blood transfusions the issue."
  Awake! - May 22, 1994, p.2

  Yes, the sacrifice of human life, human sacrifices, to please their god by as is stated “putting God first”.

  Why such human sacrifices? Because we are told that’s what their god requires and he is pleased by such sacrifices, just like the Canaanite gods were.

  Such are the dire consequences of worshipping, thence sacrificing to, the watchtower gods and their idols. Their primary idol, the “governing body”, in an effort to subserviate its followers erects subsidiary idols to pay homage and sacrifices to such as blood.
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  The watchtower eats humble pie in trying to locate and reinstate all those wrongly disfellowshiped?

  by still wondering in

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  what happens when the rules regarding medical treatment are changed because it is now decided that the watchtower god does allows certain blood fractions after all but which formerly the wts said would offend him so much that offenders would be sent to gehenna?.

  blood serums are just one example.

  in 1954 the societys ruling on blood serums disallowed their use because using blood serums was displeasing to god.

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  For the bunch of psychopathic desperadoes, a collective “Mad Hatter”class, who rule in JWland known as “The spiritual paradise” they are indeed living in a veritable paradise. A paradise where they have the ability to empower themselves to perform miracles. The most notable being the miracle of always being right even when completely wrong. So it’s no surprise that they have also given themselves the powers of life and death.

  They thus have the powers needed to hand down death sentences or reprieves how ever the fancy takes them. It’s pointless having a power and not exercising it especially when it can be used to strengthen their power base and extend THEIR paradise.

  So these past decades the “ fateful and disgusting serpent Mad Hatter” class have used these powers to the hilt and by their own admission left thousands dead in their wake and tens of thousands more grieving.

  "In former times thousands of youths died for putting God first. They are still doing it, only today the drama is played out in hospitals and courtrooms, with blood transfusions the issue."
  Awake! - May 22, 1994, p.2

  Yes, the sacrifice of human life, human sacrifices, to please their god by as is stated “putting God first”.

  Why such human sacrifices? Because we are told that’s what their god requires and he is pleased by such sacrifices, just like the Canaanite gods were.

  Such are the dire consequences of worshipping, thence sacrificing to, the watchtower gods and their idols. Their primary idol, the “governing body”, in an effort to subserviate its followers erects subsidiary idols to pay homage and sacrifices to such as blood.